Chapter 12

On page 231 Shalit quotes a story from the New York Times, then says its hard to prosecute boys who are assaulting girls in school when the teachers are doing the same thing more or less. I agree with Shalit here. I'm sure if something like this is going on then these kids, the girls and the boys, are old enough to say something to their parents at least. They should also be able to do such a thing as anonymously as possible.



Greg

Chapter 11

Has the lack in modesty made parents and other figures in our lives not care? Page 198 references the phrase "As long as you're happy." I heard this growing up. My parents made sure I make my own decisions, but were not absent in guiding me through the bigger, life-altering decisions. Modernity in parenting has created the sense of self-governing, but I do not think this equates modern parenting with fault of neglect. Guidance and independence in decision making can be integrated into molding more responsible youth.

Sara

Chapter 10

On page 173, Shalit makes it clear that public opinion is shocked by public nudity. She uses an example of a man who couldn't help but stare at his friend's breasts at the beach; "My eyes rested where I knew they shouldn't." I was a victim of this same example on a trip to Miami. However, by the end of the week I was so used to seeing it that I was not phased. Is embarrassment in this situation natural modesty or culture shock?

Sara

Chapter 9

Is it really all that rough? I don't understand why people take the smallest of problems and dwell upon them. In my experience life is too short freak out about everything. It is true to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all. But it goes beyond that for me. Many people in general make mountains into molehills, they are always on the go and not slowing down. I think we all should take a step back and enjoy life as it comes.


-Greg

Jonathan S.

Chapter 8

On page 146 Shalit refers to a society that lost respect for female modesty and that men are not protective of women. I feel that men are always going to be protective of women. The best example that I can think of is the way most men are protective of their mothers. Men are also very protective of their wives as well.



-Greg

Chapter 8

Chapter 7

This chapter deals a lot with women behaving modestly and that it is a natural thing. I don't know what women do behind closed doors but is it true that women can have the same as locker room talk...just in the bathroom?

Chapter 6

I agree with Shalit on page 116. Here she reveals what women think about Playgirl. Honestly, I wholeheartedly agree. I am not attracted to overly-buff men in skimpy panties. This is the opposite of a turn on for me. I think men and women are just different here. Obviously men are turned on by reading a Playboy. I do think there are clear distinctions between men and women that will never be equated.
-Sara

Chapter 5

On p.95 there is a letter that was written by a magazine as a guideline to writing love letters. I just wanted to know is this really what women want to hear because I think it goes a bit overboard....talking about how I would die without you....yea just seems a little over the top to me.
-Jonathan S.

Chapter 4

In reference to the story under "Immodesty In Dress", I'm sure the girls at this school do feel that they are pressured to dress that way. That being said, it is up to the school and the board of education to realize the way the girls are dressed and enact limitations or a dress code of some kind.

Greg

Chapter 3

When reading this chapter, I could relate to the story of the woman who was harassed on the street by the man who said she had pretty eyes. I was in a gas station recently when the cashier asked me, in a very crude manner, how much I would charge him. There was another man standing by and he said nothing. He just called me a prostitute and bystanders are acting like they didn't hear him. When propositioned, we women are supposed to say, "I'm flattered, but no thank you." If we are not kind and gentle when declining their offers, we are unladylike.

Some women enjoy guys staring and whistling as they walk by. Others just seem to ignore it and accept that there is nothing they can do to change things. Whatever the reasons, women seem to have stopped demanding respect.

Heather

Chapter 2 Victimization and the One Night Stand

I began posting this as a comment. I wanted to get away from "I agree with" "I don't agree with" statements, so I decided to give you guys something else to ponder as a side topic for chapter 2. This was derived from Kristin's response mentioning victimization.
In many cases women are victimized after an evening of a few drinks. I can see this really applying to younger women; girls really. I remember back in the high school days as a girl dating men in their twenties. Reminiscing now, I am not ashamed of any of the events that took place. However, I can definitely see that "men" choose to date "girls" for a select few reasons...one mainly. Certain men seek girls in their experimental age to obtain just what the girls are seeking.
When the age gap lessens, I feel the two involved in the one night stand are on a more level playing field. In this case they are still both playing the field but have the same expectation. One night.

Sara

Chapter 2

Usually a one night stand is the effect of a couple of drinks. Does the girl assume that there is something to be made of if the guy chooses to spend the night after the "what ever you what to call it" has been done? By something to be made of I mean a relationship. I don't think that it would make a difference, but in the book there is an example that says that it would be easier for the girl to understand if the guy left afterwards. I know that the majority of the group is composed of women so this question would go out to them and anyone else from other groups.

Chapter 1

What caught my attention in chapter 1 was the brief story of a 13-year old girl visiting her doctor. After visiting the doctor for 8 years he asked her if she was practicing safe sex. Upon hearing this, the girl began to laugh. I think that the doctor should have approached the guardian of the girl to make sure weather she is ready for that conversation. The guardian could have spoken to the girl to where she would take the conversation in a more serious manner next time.

Jonathan Salinas